Showing posts with label osprey. Show all posts
Showing posts with label osprey. Show all posts

Tuesday, 5 July 2011

Osprey Talon 5.5

So for the 15 trigs, I decided not to take my tried and trusted berghaus bladdered- which is now, somewhat disappointingly discontinued, and managed to blag the Talon 5.5 from Lynne to run with. It was a slight gamble having only walked with it once before, and never having actually run with it for a short while, let alone a long run.

Looking at the bits and bobs that I was going to need for the run, it normally all fits quite well into the 8+2 of the bladdered, but would it fit in the Osprey-when it only allegedly takes 5.5 litres.
All packed up and ready to go

3litre bladder, food, spare hat and gloves, a map, waterproof and a minimalist first aid kit (with spare socks). The osprey swallowed it all very well indeed, though with the 3 litre bladder full, it was a little uncomfortable- at least until some of it was consumed, and then it sat very well on the back indeed.

For food on the go, the Talon boasts 2 elasticated pockets on the shoulder straps- just like all other Talons, and that is the only place you can really store stuff- there are no pockets on the hip belts- which is a real shame- I know that it is meant to be pretty minimalist, but even an elasticated one like on the Raptor series would have been a really good touch- nevermind. I could fit 3 geobars in each of the shoulderstraps, so that was potentially about 6 hours food there without stopping anyway.

Geobars stuffed in the front pockets and you can see the full bladder in the pocket- bulging out the back panel
I was wearing the Small/medium back length sack, which was just about perfect for me, Medium/large would have pretty much swamped me, though being pretty much a Medium fit means that I can get away with either.
It was a comfortable fit as soon as I put it on- except for the minor issue with the overfull waterbladder- and I have to say that as time went on and I refilled a couple of times, it was always a bit of an issue getting the bladder in and out of the section made for it.
(I should point out here that I was using an Osprey 3 litre Hydraulics bladder with the slightly re-enforced back to help it retain a specific shape as you fill it up - as opposed to being a sack of water- but I think that it detracts from the concept especially as it just felt like it was causing a pressure point against the middle section of my spine which a camelback would not have)
Maybe I would have been better off with a 2 litre bladder which wouldn't have filled out so much space in the pack- however, it worked, if with a bit of pain for a short while every time I filled it up to the brim.

The harness fit snugly around me, and I was astonished to find that as we ran, my top did not creep up my back. No matter which rucksac I have used for running with in the past, I have always had that annoying issue of my top slowly riding up my back so that I end up with flesh pressed against the rucksac. The way to prevent this was always to crank the harness down as much as I could- which actually ended up melting a couple of my t-shirts because of the friction. (I still use them, its just that they aren't quite as photogenic anymore)!

It was comfortable, held all the bits and bobs I needed it to, it didn't melt my top, or let it ride up, however, it would be perfect if it had a few more little pockets around the bag which you could get to as you are wearing it, instead of having to take it off everytime you want to get hold of something else other than chocolate bars and water. (like a camera or such like).

A good running bag, but not perfect- and if you use it with a bladder, use a 2 litre one, or a 3 litre that isnt quite full.

Saturday, 19 March 2011

Osprey Talon series

Osprey Talon rucksacs.
They look pretty- and have just had a bit of an update as well- with bike helmet carrying tabs attached on the 5.5, 11 and 22 litre models. They are lightweight, and they seem to be semi-water resistant.
Are they any good though? I mean... its a lot of money for what looks like a pretty flimsy rucksac.

Simple answer- yes- if it fits your back.
These rucksacs have a flexible back system, and a big thing at the moment, is to ask for a rucksac with a "frame thing that keeps it away from my back- I hate having a sweaty back".
Unfortunately I have news for you.
If you dont want a sweaty back, dont wear a rucksac. I dont care how "ventilated" a back system is, or how much air it claims to circulate around your spine, if you wear a rucksac, you will have a sweaty back. End of.
So, the key is to find a rucksac which is comfortable, doesnt dig into you, and supports the weight of all the stuff you are lumbering around with.

The Talons do a remarkable job of this, especially when you consider the generous sizing. The 22litre certainly seems to be a very big 22 litre, especially when you look at other 25 litre sacs on the market which seem a goodly amount smaller, and I swear that the 5.5 that we took delivery of recently holds the same amount, if not more than my old beaten up Berghaus Bladdered 8+2.
The carrying capacity is excellent. Thats all you really need to know about the sizing. Think of a rucksac of that size, and what you could probably fit into it, and then add another jacket- thats the size.
The weight- ridiculously light. In fact, when trying these on, make sure that it has some kind of weight in it, or else you'll just stand there going... well... I cant feel it.
Even when you do have weight in there, it doesnt feel like there is. The amount of people I have persuaded to put this on, with weight, got them to do up the straps correctly- and then wander around and then exclaimed about the weight carrying properties of this sac is quite unreal.

It must be pointed out here that the fabric does feel a little flimsy- and in fact this was one of the reasons why an independent store didnt stock Osprey for a good long time- they thought the build quality wasnt good enough and that theyd break within a small amount of use and abuse. The store was given a couple to try and break- this was about 5 years ago- and despite large amounts of effort on rock, scree, gorse etc, and several times through the wash, they are still going strong.
They now stock Osprey.
The series follows a general trend, they use the same back system- which can be adjusted- each litre size comes in a Small/med and a Med/large back length- and the only one which has a "frame" is the 44- but it is so light as to be barely noticable. They all have one main pocket, a spare stow pocket, a pocket on each side of the waistbelt- (SO handy), a stretchy stow pocket on the back and space for a hydration system. The 5.5, 11 and 22 have zip closure on the main pocket (which I have never seen break), and the 33 and 44 have flip open lids like "normal old school" rucksacs- and the 44 has an extendible lid as well.

Its almost like I have nothing bad to say about these rucksacs.
But hang on.There is a small niggling thing that gets to me. The waterproofness and a minor design feature which can spell disaster in particularly bad weather.
In between the back system and the rest of the rucksac is a pouch where a hydration system is meant to go- (and you can see the hydration system in the picture of the red rucksac). In really bad, properly apocalyptic rain, the water goes straight down this hole, and although there is a drainage hole at the bottom of the bag, anything inside the bag gets soaked. Its like having a direct rainspout into the section next to the main compartment.
(this can obviously be remedied by drybags and the like- but it is a weakness in design in my book- as there is only a piece of fabric dividing the H2O section from the rest of the bag).
Apart from that though, seriously, these are great bags. In the past few months I have seen many more of them around in London on the backs of commuters, Ive seen them in the hills, on bikers, hikers and climbers.
There appear to be a lot of fiddly straps and clips and stuff when you first get your hands on it- but the great thing is, you dont HAVE to have them. I know one guy who on buying a talon 44, ripped all the extraneous straps and bits and pieces off it, and then proclaimed it was a "perfect" sac.

So- all in all, good, light, robust, useful features, a minor defect (if you are in the rain), but a brilliant buy, that just doesnt die. (well, the 22 in our house hasnt yet, but we are continuing to use and abuse it and we've only just got the 5.5...)